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    1. One premier game at the top of the power rankings and lots of byes for the shit tier. Let's get to it. 12. Stanford Cardinal (0-4, 0-3 PAC) -- Still winless, the Cardinal continue to hit new lows as they lost to the Beavers of Oregon State by multiple scores at home (though at this point, that's honestly not terrible). Still, that BGSU loss keeps them in the basement at bare minimum at least until they win a game. Congrats on a top 10 recruiting class thus far, though. Next: Bye 11. California Golden Bears (0-4, 0-2 PAC) -- A 7-point comeback by Wazzu in the 4th quarter, including a 40 yard scamper by RB Bill Hoffman who'd been mostly contained to that point, resulted in a 4th straight loss for the Bears. What has happened to BLT? He has just 1 pick in 4 games and let up 8 receptions for 118 yards and a TD to Wazzu freshman 2/4.5 wideout Luke Sikuli. This can't be what Quasar expected to start like going into the year. Next: Bye 10. Washington State Cougars (2-2, 1-1 PAC) -- Congrats to ape on the win and all, but it was against a pretty unimpressive team in Cal and required a 4th quarter comeback to happen at all. This team is composed of a lot of freshman on offense so some struggles will happen, obviously, but a mix of some talented players on defense has been relatively disappointing as they've allowed nearly 30 PPG against a relatively weak schedule. Next: Bye 9. USC Trojans (1-3, 1-1 PAC) ↓3 The Trojans' offensive output against Arizona was pitiful. In fact, barring a 40 yard endaround from Marc Ponder in garbage time in the 4th quarter, USC did not score a point. Part of that can be blamed on QB Sebastian Reardon, who by all accounts did not look good in practice and looked even worse in the game, but RB Bernard Shook could have performed better to pick up the load while the Trojans' starter is injured. USC and 1-5 looks like destiny at this point. Next: Bye 8. Washington Huskies (2-2, 1-2 PAC) -- One week after looking pathetic against Arizona, Jake Davis looked a lot better in Oregon this week, putting up 300 yards and 3 TD against a solid Ducks defense. It was a close game, but Washington's defense could not handle Trevon Yeldon in any way, shape, or form, and Oregon pulled out with a close win. The Huskies go ahead of USC by sheer virtue of the close loss to a good Ducks squad (#qualityloss). If they can handle their next game, it'll go a long way towards conference relevancy this season. Next: vs Oregon State 7. Colorado Buffaloes (3-1, 1-1 PAC) ↓2 I figured it was coming, but Colorado was a bit exposed against ASU this week. The offense couldn't move the ball against a PAC opponent once again thanks to Latavious Murray's injury, but the Sun Devils (unlike Stanford) actually have an offense that can move the ball against good opposition and it showed. Israel Carlson moved the ball consistently and QB Parker Townsend added a long rush, and Elijah Corey wasn't good enough to move the ball. Evan Torres has been incredibly disappointing WITH Murray in the game, and looked even worse without him. Until Murray gets healthy I don't know how this team is going to win any games without significant help on defense. Next: Bye 6. Arizona State Sun Devils (2-2, 2-1 PAC) ↑3 ASU looked solid against Colorado, helped out by the aforementioned Murray injury, and cruised to a win with their ball control offense. They've got to be disappointed the matchup against USC came before Marc Lockwood's injury, since they'd easily win a rematch with them right now. This team is still relatively average, but I can definitely see a path to a bowl with only 3 PAC wins needed (I'm assuming they'll cruise past NIU). Next: Bye 5. Oregon State Beavers (4-0, 2-0 PAC) ↑2 Well, they did it. A second PAC-12 win in two tries. Past all my doubts that they could even hang with the bottom they've won their first two conference matchups for the first time ever. They're technically against 2 of the bottom 3 teams in the PAC, but that's still damn good compared to historical OSU squads. Lloyd Samuels looked great last year and he has continued that to over a 5 YPC this season. A bowl game is almost certainly happening, as they only need to beat UMass at home and grab one more PAC win. This team could easily start 8-0, but based on history I'm not going to crown them higher until they beat someone in the upper echelon. Next: @ Washington 4. #25 Oregon Ducks (3-1, 2-1 PAC) -- The Yeldons Ducks squeaked past Washington, with the defense surprisingly struggling against Huskies QB Jake Davis. Blake Martin had a pick and a sack to move to 3 sacks and 2 picks this year, but CB Tre'Davious Dikes was sloppy defensively. Following the loss to UCLA, if this team wants to take the PAC North they'll need to take care of business against the rest of the North teams in a more clear fashion than they did against the Huskies. Next: Bye 3. UCLA Bruins (1-2, 1-2 PAC) -- UCLA isn't budging from the top 3 next week barring an extreme upset from Eastern Washington, a team that lost by 35 to Washington State. They could easily end up sweeping through their remaining schedule, as I don't think there's any significantly hard competition remaining. But in this conference, they'll probably drop a couple of games. Next: vs Eastern Washington 2. #21 Utah Utes (3-0, 2-0 PAC) -- Donald Culver reportedly took the bye and relaaaaaxed, as he was spotted by locals at the local Massage Envy every day. That will hopefully get his arm back into throwing shape for this week's incredibly important game in Tucson. The Wildcat defense has been stifling, allowing just 11 PPG through 4 games, so he'll need to be at his best for the Utes to pull off the upset. Next: @ Arizona 1. #5 Arizona Wildcats (4-0, 3-0 PAC) -- If Arizona can pull off the win this week, they'll have already pushed off all of their main competition in the PAC South less than halfway into the season. The Wildcats defense as mentioned before is great, but their secondary can be exploited by good QBs such as Utes QB Donald Culver. The Wildcats cruised to a win against USC this past week, as USC's backup QB was... not good. Culver is much much better, and with his renewed health the Utes have a chance at the upset. I don't think the chances are high, as Arizona is healthy and this team is as complete as they come. Next: vs Utah
    2. [2021] Week 5 Headlines

      Jets Shootout With Ravens Yields Casualties Jets beat Ravens 45-38, but lose 3 defensive starters to injury; a matchup of undefeateds in Miami looms after the Jets' bye.
    3. [2021] Week #5 - MNF

      We've let up 30+ to the Ravens and Bills at home, we just lost 3 of our starters, can't wait to see how our next game at Miami goes!
    4. Early Season PAC-12 Award Leaders

      Nate Garrett for freshman DPOY
    5. Man, I was optimistic for the PAC going into this past week... and look what it gets me. The conference performed terribly as a whole this week, and I'm most disappointed in my performance - well, at least besides the bottom 2. Anyway, let's get to it. 12. Stanford Cardinal (0-3, 0-2 PAC) ↓1 >losing to 0-2 MAC team Bowling Green at home while ''"being a Power-5 conference team.""" At least they're recruiting well. Next: vs Oregon State 11. California Golden Bears (0-3, 0-2 PAC) ↑1 Cal only gets the pleasure of leaving the basement due to the technicality of Stanford's loss being more embarrassing, somehow. Cal lost by 20 to a Kansas team that in the first quarter, lost one of their two active receivers to an ACL injury. Their ""'defense""" let up 41 points to a team with one wide receiver. It just goes to show that performing as a defense is more of performing as a unit than it is any individual talent (COUGH COUGH COUGH, BLT). This team is sad, and it wouldn't surprise me to see them back in the basement as soon as next week if they lose to a Wazzu team that looks nearly as unimpressive. Next: vs Washington State 10. Washington State Cougars (1-2, 0-2 PAC) ↓2 Wazzu might as well be 0-3 when you consider that their only win is against an FCS team. Losing to two teams that prior to this season were easily two of the bottom tier teams in this conference, first to Oregon State (reminder that that was OSU's first conference win in four seasons) and now to Arizona State. ASU isn't a bad team, but if WSU wants to be considered a good team they shouldn't be losing to them at home. If this team falters this week against a Cal team that has looked pretty damn pathetic themselves, a nice trip to the basement probably awaits them - not what coach ape probably wanted or expected going into this season. And this rounds out what is easily the bottom 3 - and all North teams, too. Next: @ California 9. Arizona State Sun Devils (1-2, 1-1 PAC) ↑1 Look, a team to be positive about! The Sun Devils pulled off their first win of the season, going into Pullman and riding Israel Carlson's 200+ yards and 3 TD on the ground to take the game. Parker Townsend was also very impressive as a passer with 75% completion, 8 YPA, and 2 TD to 0 INT. The defense wasn't great but Wazzu's offense is still good and this was probably always going to be a close game. I'm not super optimistic for this team going forward as they're likely still the worst team in the South, and are coming off a double-digit loss to a USC team that will soon be reeling. Still, they should put up a tough fight against every team they play at minimum. Next: vs Colorado 8. Washington Huskies (2-1, 1-1 PAC) ↓2 The Hooskies were a bit exposed in their loss in Tucson, as Jake Davis put up one of the worst games of his career with just 50% completion, with 0 TD and 2 INT on 36 attempts. The positive news is that this team plays in the North, where according to these rankings they're still in the top half of the teams in the division. The negative news is that they play likely the best team in the North this week in Oregon, so they better get their shit together quickly. Next: @ Oregon 7. Oregon State Beavers (3-0, 1-0 PAC) -- The Beavs were the only PAC team on bye this week, and chaos erupted around them. That said, I'm not quite ready to move them up until they pull off another PAC win. With Stanford moving into the bottom spot in these rankings, and Oregon State getting them at home this week, a win would prove the Wazzu game wasn't a fluke, while a loss would sadly show that it was more luck than anything. It's still only one PAC win in the last 3 seasons. I think it's fair to remain skeptical until they can win multiple conference games. But still, who would have thought they'd be the second highest ranked North team at any point this season?! Good on ya, Beavs. Next: vs Stanford 6. USC Trojans (1-2, 1-1 PAC) ↓2 Maybe I'm biased, but I think that I had a good shot to win the game this week without injury - QB Marc Lockwood tore his rotator cuff in his throwing shoulder, and while he played the rest of the game the team couldn't adjust while trying to run out the clock. The defense played admirably, allowing 20 points to a Utah offense that had been humming. One play and this could have gone the other way. Unfortunately, this team is probably gonna start losing and losing quickly. 2.5/3 redshirt sophomore QB Sebastian Reardon now comes in as the starter and will start in games vs Arizona, vs Oregon, and @ Oklahoma State, all of which are very good teams. I would not be surprised to see this team at 1-5 in a month - Reardon may be better than anyone knows, but the odds of that seem slim. Next: vs #6 Arizona 5. Colorado Buffaloes (3-0, 2-0 PAC) -- The Buffs took care of business, beating in-state rival Colorado State on the road by 8. It's not a bad win by any means, but I'm still concerned about this Buffs team. Beating MTSU is nothing, beating CSU is alright, and in their one conference game thus far they could only muster 13 points at home against a Stanford team that just allowed 35 to a Bowling Green team that, while it may sound like I think they're terrible in this column, has what would most likely be one of the worst if not worst PAC offense. I'm not so sure they'll beat the Sun Devils this week, but I can't really drop a team that is undefeated and took care of business this week. Next: @ Arizona State 4. #24 Oregon Ducks (2-1, 1-1 PAC) ↓3 in hindsight, I may have been a bit too bullish on this team. Tough loss for the Ducks, but you can't say it wasn't definitive. They lost by 15 to the Bruins, and outside of an 88-yard touchdown (I mean, don't get me wrong that's super impressive and part of his job) Trevon Yeldon struggled to move the rock all game with a 4.0 YPC and 0 TD otherwise on 24 other carries. The defense, meanwhile, let Steven Gore do whatever the hell he wanted through the air even though coaches who don't play in the Pac-12 know he's going to air the ball out. They're still definitively the favorites to win the North, though. After this performance against Gore I would be worried about Jake Davis airing out the ball this week, and with Oregon dealing with multiple injuries on offense, including a new one to starting OG Trevor York, I could see a second straight falter occuring. Next: vs Washington 3. UCLA Bruins (1-2, 1-2 PAC) ↑7 Is moving up a 1-2 team 7 spots in a conference that sports just 12 teams a bit drastic? Maybe, but UCLA was one of the preseason favorites for a reason and I think they finally showed what they're capable of in their dominating win over Oregon this week. Steven Gore was good Steven Gore instead of the 5-interception Steven Gore he was against this same team last season, and that loss to Utah doesn't look as bad as it once was. With two losses to the teams above them in these rankings (both of whom play in the South), a South title doesn't seem likely, but I think they can pull out a good season - their 3 OOC games are easy as hell and I don't think they'll struggle to win many of their remaining games, unless Steven Gore pulls a last season Steven Gore against one of the conference's good secondaries. Still, this gives the team a lot of momentum heading into the bye before they play an EWU team that Wazzu of all teams already destroyed. Next: Bye 2. #21 Utah Utes (3-0, 2-0 PAC) ↑1 The Utes pulled off a nice win against USC this week, showing their defense could show up in important games too. Donald Culver continues to be one of the more underrated QBs in the nation, and he was solid this week though he struggled a bit when targeting Donovan Singleton-Blake. Still, with Culver spreading the ball around and the defense spreading the love both with sacks (a nice 3 from 3 players this week) and turnovers, this team looks a lot scarier than anyone anticipated in preseason. With a bye this week, they get a week to prepare to travel to the #1 team in these rankings. Next: Bye 1. #6 Arizona Wildcats (3-0, 2-0 PAC) ↑1 The Wildcats had a nice showing against Washington this week, destroying Jake Davis while showing great efficiency on offense. There's a reason they were considered early favorites in the conference. With Oregon destroying my optimism for them this week, I think the Wildcats are the odds-on favorite to win the PAC this year and frankly at this point I would be surprised if they didn't. Up next this week is a trip to the Coliseum to face a USC team that lost their starting QB. While this is obviously good on the surface, it also means Zona doesn't know exactly what to expect offensively going into the game. It probably doesn't matter, though, as this defense is talented enough to stop whatever the Trojans throw at them. Next: @ USC
    6. How do you view your Schedule?

      https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1mzYV2f0F_TYV19sR0t-vjDJ14erbFqM1KkX221Ggs2I/edit#gid=1650990291 Assuming you can view this forum, here's this week's: http://cfbhc.com/index.php?/topic/21063-2021-week-5-discussion/
    7. [2021] ACC Stat Leaders: Week 4

      Dom Baptiste is a beast
    8. [2021] Week 4 Headlines

      Quinnterception Corey Quinn records his first pick as a Jet as team moves to 4-0
    9. [Poll] What will be UCF's final ranking?

      Did you watch the UCF-Auburn game? Because I wouldn't describe Auburn as not being motivated to play.
    10. 2017 National Championship Predictions

      Tahd 20 Dawgs 24
    11. Either Chris Hoag's XP was listed incorrectly (4/5) or the Jets scored 40 points, as 4 TD + XP, one TD and no XP, 2 FG is 40 points. http://cfbhc.com/index.php?/topic/21052-2021-week-4-1-pm/
    12. [2021] Week #4 - 1 PM

    13. [2021] Week #4 - Saturday Afternoon

      getting upset and then losing my QB for games vs Arizona, vs Oregon, and @ Oklahoma State... feels bad man
    14. [2021] Week #4 - FNF

      First 2 games: Messiah pls Third game: Defense pls
    15. [2021] Week #4 - TNF

    16. Through 4 weeks of PACtion, each team has played at least one conference game. There are 6 undefeated, 4 winless, and 2 maybe-they're-good-but-we're-not-super-sure-anymore teams. 12. California Golden Bears (0-2, 0-1 PAC) A rough ranking for a team whose only two losses are road losses to ranked teams (#23 Baylor and #16 Oregon) but those are the breaks. I was going to give Cal the benefit of the doubt due to a slightly better offense and arguably a more talented roster than the team ranked ahead of them, but they've not looked nearly as good as they've lost their two games by multiple scores (by 19 and 15) while letting up 378 yards rushing and 5 rushing TD alone in those 2 games. The offense also didn't show much sign of life against Oregon. They play a Kansas team facing similar struggles in their first home game this week, and if they can win there it might be enough to catapult them out of last place. Next: vs Kansas 11. Stanford Cardinal (0-2, 0-2 PAC) This might be a rough ranking for a team that has lost games by 2 points and 6 points, but that's how it's going to go in the PAC-12 this year. The offense struggled heavily in their first outing, putting up just 7 points a touchdown as QB Clint Campbell adding 2 picks while the defense stood strong. This week, the Cardinal experienced the opposite problem, struggling mightily against Washington QB Jake Davis while allowing 2 TDs to the Hooskies offense. The offense still struggled this week up until a 4th quarter comeback where the offense put up the same amount of points (20) as they had in their first 7 quarters combined. Still, they lost once again. They'll probably pick up their first win this week against a struggling Bowling Green team at least. Next: vs Bowling Green 10. UCLA Bruins (0-2, 0-2 PAC) The only reason UCLA is this high is that they were ranked #3 in the preseason conference favorite list. Unfortunately, it looks like coaching still matters as a loss to Utah at home by 21 is not good... but a road loss to Arizona by 3 this past week is much more encouraging. Maybe running the ball more than 1 time is a good strategy after all? They ran 10 times that amount against Arizona and came that much closer to winning against a top 10 team. They play another ranked team this next week, and if we extrapolate that the Bruins will run the ball 10 times as much as the previous week each week the amount of times UCLA will run it comes out to 100 attempts this week. Hopefully coach JBax learned to balance and not run it quite that many times. Next: vs #16 Oregon 9. Arizona State Sun Devils (0-2, 0-1 PAC) Another rough ranking as the Sun Devils' two losses are both to ranked teams (#15 Ohio State and #18 USC)... but both were played at home. Ohio State only won by a TD, and USC won by 2, but ASU showed signs of life in both games. Hell, the team's running game looked acceptable against two tough front sevens from OSU and USC - but as long as QB Parker Townsend continues to struggle throwing the ball it's tough to see this team winning any blowouts. There will be a lot of close games from this team, I think. Facing a Washington State team that looks vulnerable this week, perhaps they'll be able to pull out their first win in Pullman. Next: @ Washington State 8. Washington State Cougars (1-1, 0-1 PAC) I still think Wazzu is a talented team... but there are some serious struggles starting to show. The offense was amazing against EWU this week, putting up 59 with amazing efficiency against an EWU team that does have talent. That said, letting up 25 points to an FCS team that you know will only be passing the whole time is a bit concerning for the Cougs. Let's also talk about the Cougs' loss, a 26-23 OT barnburner lost when Bradley Hassan threw an interception on the first play of the period. That was the first conference win for OSU in 4 years. And WSU is a clearly more talented team. Upsets do happen, but cracks are starting to show in this team's play. I'm pretty worried about them and they might drop further if their play doesn't pick up soon - they'll have a chance to prove they're better than the lower tier of the conference this week, though. Next: vs Arizona State 7. Oregon State Beavers (3-0, 2-0 PAC) Going into this season, you'd definitely expect the Beavs to be ranked #12, but I have to give them credit for the coaching job that led to the upset of the Cougs. And they were convincing in their 2 OOC wins... although those wins were against UAB at home and UNLV on the road. Still, both of those were 3-possession wins, and getting a win over Wazzu is huge. Unfortunately for them, I think this is the beginning of the end of the road. The coaching is soon to not be there, and the team is by far the least talented in the PAC. They do have a bye this week, but two conference road games coming off of the bye should end the Cinderella story. Still, Lloyd Samuels and crew have been fun thus far and I'm definitely rooting for them to keep it up if at all possible. Next: Bye 6. Washington Huskies (2-0, 1-0 PAC) Speaking of historically great starts, congrats to coach deandean for his sustained winning record as a coach in a long time... even if it is just at 2-0. It's hard for me to knock an undefeated team too much, but hell, even OSU's wins have looked better technically. A 10-point win over NC State, even on the road, is not great... and the defense cracked under pressure against Stanford this past week, while only technically holding on for a 2-point victory. And Stanford doesn't look amazing thus far, either. Jake Davis has looked improved as a true sophomore, but now the real test comes as the team has an opportunity to prove themselves in the next two weeks with games @Arizona and @Oregon. Winning even one of those would be huge (even just a win against Oregon for a second straight year would be great) and put the Huskies in the conversation for PAC-12 contention for the first time in a long time. The team is #26 in the polls technically, but I'm not sure they're quite that good yet. Next: @ #7 Arizona 5. Colorado Buffaloes (2-0, 1-0 PAC) Colorado has done approximately what you would expect from them thus far - they put away Middle Tennessee nicely and defeated Stanford. I give a lot of credit to winning the games you should, so Colorado gets a top 5 spot here. Latavious Murray has been alright so far, but you have to be worried about an offense when they only put up 26 against MTSU and 13 against Stanford, both at home. Evan Torres threw 2 picks and 0 TD in the Stanford game as well. They don't face any of their tougher conference competition for a few weeks, so they might remain up further in the rankings by virtue of that alone for a few weeks, but that might give enough time for Coach Franz to work out the kinks. Next: @ Colorado State 4. #18 USC Trojans (1-1, 1-0 PAC) I might being a little harsh on myself here - my two games thus far are a 4-point loss to the #3 team in the country and a 14-point win on the road against Arizona State. Not too bad. Still, it's power rankings, and even a close loss is enough to knock down a good team for a bit. New QB Marc Lockwood struggled against TCU but looked much better this past week, as did new JUCO RB Bernard Shook, which is promising for the offense. The defense, especially in the secondary, can be a bit worrying in a conference featuring only 4.0+ potential QBs. That didn't factor against ASU but should against teams with tougher passing attacks, such as when they travel to Salt Lake City this week to face the Fightin' Donald Culvers. It'll be curious to see if they can hold up. Next: @ Utah 3. Utah Utes (2-0, 1-0 PAC) The Utes have passed the hell out of the ball in their two wins @ UCLA and @ San Diego State thus far... But QB Donald Culver has a 180 passer rating with 8 TD and 0 INT in those games, so hell, keep passing it for all I care. They won those games by 21 and 26 points respectively, too. The Utes go home for their first home game against a ranked USC squad, and if they can pull off the upset they'll probably jump into the poll head on. Culver sustained a mild ankle sprain in the SDSU game but reports say that he's probable to go for the game. If he's missing it'll be a huge blow to this team's chances, but even if he does play it's tough to see him playing up to his usual standard, which might cause some trouble. Next: vs #18 USC 2. #7 Arizona Wildcats (2-0, 1-0 PAC) Yeah, yeah, I didn't rank the highest ranked team in the PAC #1 in my power rankings. Sue me, it's power rankings. Sure Arizona started off as the highest ranked team in the PAC, but a 7-point home win over Texas Tech followed by a 3-point win over UCLA just doesn't seem particularly impressive to me. They've won the games they should win, but they need to start winning them by more to justify their high ranking. They have two chances of being upset in the next two weeks, at home against Washington this week or at the Coliseum against USC next week (I'd assume next week is of higher probability). Week 3 Sam Parish (2 TD / 0 INT) will need to show up, though, rather than Week 1 Sam Parish (2 TD / 2 INT) or this team is at serious risk of being upset, I think. Next: vs Washington 1. #16 Oregon Ducks (2-0, 1-0 PAC) Trevon Yeldon is a MAN and in serious contention for the Heisman with two amazing performances thus far. I am a bit concerned that the Ducks only beat Michigan State by 7 at home, but 21 of those points came in the 4th quarter, so I'll chalk it up to garbage time. Outside of that, I've been very impressed by the Ducks' defensive performances thus far, especially in their limiting of Kyle Davidson. QB Michael Coe hasn't been as great as I'd want considering teams are definitely playing the run against the Ducks, and their receivers have been dropping like flies, but with Yeldon on the field it may not matter. In the team's first road game this week, against a UCLA team this week that has now figured out that you're allowed to hand off the ball, the Ducks face their toughest test thus far. I think it'll be a close one, and I'm not sure they'll win, but coaching might prevail on the day, if you're forcing me to make a prediction. Next: @ UCLA
    17. Obligatory 2018 status needed. Happy New Year!

      1. smokingcricket


        Bruh it's still 5778 I don't know what you're talking about.

      2. lucas95


        Bitch shut up

      3. Rome


        Shut up bitch

    18. [2018] Pro Bowl

      Skaggs can't do it in the postseason