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Forbes | Ranking CFBHC Program Prestige

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August 17th, 2020

 

 

What school has the best football program? Who has had the best history and tradition? Why does your team suck so much?

 

These questions can be overheard at any hole-in-the-wall bar and has been a topic of heated discussion for decades. A program's national prestige brings with it a lot of things; recruits, attendance, facilities, but our focus today is its draw to bringing in top tier coaching talent. We here at Forbes set out to find out once and for all which programs are the most desirable, sought after locations for coaches to land at and thus ultimately which university has has the most prestigious football program to date.

 

For this survey we spoke to 23 insiders in the coaching world about their opinions on conference and team prestige on a scale of 1-5, then we crunched the numbers using this formula:

  • Prestige = (4 x Conference Prestige) + (2 x Average Team Prestige in Conference) + (14 x Team Prestige)

This popped out a number out of 100 which we then used to grade each team's prestige from one to six stars. We felt this 30/70 split between conference and team prestige gave an accurate representation on how the coaches would ultimately decide to hypothetically move to another program as more prestigious conferences and programs have deeper pockets to shell out for the elite coaches.

 

Here's our results, note that the raw score is hidden but the rankings are still listed....

 

6-Star Programs

 

 


1    Penn State Nittany Lions    Big Ten
2    Alabama Crimson Tide    SEC
3    Michigan Wolverines    Big Ten
4    Oklahoma Sooners    Big 12
4    Texas Longhorns    Big 12

 

 

 

 

5-Star Programs

 

 


6    Clemson Tigers    ACC
7    LSU Tigers    SEC
8    USC Trojans    Pac-12
9    Wisconsin Badgers    Big Ten
10    Ohio State Buckeyes    Big Ten
10    Purdue Boilermakers    Big Ten
12    Florida State Seminoles    ACC
13    Georgia Bulldogs    SEC
14    Tennessee Volunteers    SEC
15    Boston College Eagles    ACC
16    Nebraska Cornhuskers    Big Ten
17    Kansas Jayhawks    Big 12
18    Auburn Tigers    SEC
 

 

 

 

 

4-Star Programs

 

 


19    Michigan State Spartans    Big Ten
20    Oregon Ducks    Pac-12
21    Minnesota Golden Gophers    Big Ten
22    Iowa Hawkeyes    Big Ten
23    TCU Horned Frogs    Big 12
24    Florida Gators    SEC
25    Notre Dame Fighting Irish    Independent
26    Miami Hurricanes    ACC
27    Texas A&M Aggies    SEC
28    Baylor Bears    Big 12
29    Pittsburgh Panthers    ACC
30    Arizona Wildcats    Pac-12
30    UCLA Bruins    Pac-12
30    Washington Huskies    Pac-12

 

 

 

 

3-Star Programs

 

 


33    Washington State Cougars    Pac-12
34    Oklahoma State Cowboys    Big 12
35    Vanderbilt Commodores    SEC
36    Arkansas Razorbacks    SEC
36    Missouri Tigers    SEC
38    Maryland Terrapins    Big Ten
39    Air Force Falcons    Mountain West
40    Virginia Tech Hokies    ACC
41    California Golden Bears    Pac-12
42    Ole Miss Rebels    SEC
43    SMU Mustangs    The American
44    West Virginia Mountaineers    Big 12
45    Stanford Cardinal    Pac-12
46    Virginia Cavaliers    ACC
47    Illinois Fighting Illini    Big Ten
48    Arizona State Sun Devils    Pac-12
49    Texas Tech Red Raiders    Big 12
50    Houston Cougars    The American
50    UCF Knights    The American
52    Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets    ACC
53    Colorado Buffaloes    Pac-12
54    Iowa State Cyclones    Big 12
55    Boise State Broncos    Mountain West
56    Mississippi State Bulldogs    SEC
57    Utah Utes    Pac-12
58    Temple Owls    The American
59    Duke Blue Devils    ACC
 

 

 

 

 

2-Star Programs

 

 


60    Nevada Wolf Pack    Mountain West
61    Kentucky Wildcats    SEC
61    South Carolina Gamecocks    SEC
63    Indiana Hoosiers    Big Ten
63    Northwestern Wildcats    Big Ten
63    Rutgers Scarlet Knights    Big Ten
66    Louisville Cardinals    ACC
67    Navy Midshipmen    The American
68    NC State Wolfpack    ACC
68    Syracuse Orange    ACC
70    BYU Cougars    Independent
71    South Florida Bulls    The American
72    Rice Owls    C-USA
73    Toledo Rockets    MAC
74    Colorado State Rams    Mountain West
74    San Diego State Aztecs    Mountain West
76    Northern Illinois Huskies    MAC
77    North Carolina Tar Heels    ACC
78    Kansas State Wildcats    Big 12
79    East Carolina Pirates    The American
80    Hawai'i Rainbow Warriors    Mountain West
81    Western Michigan Broncos    MAC
82    Oregon State Beavers    Pac-12
83    Wake Forest Demon Deacons    ACC
 

 

 

 

 

1-Star Programs

 

 


84    Ohio Bobcats    MAC
85    Connecticut Huskies    The American
85    Memphis Tigers    The American
87    Army Black Knights    Independent
88    Marshall Thundering Herd    C-USA
89    New Mexico Lobos    Mountain West
90    Fresno State Bulldogs    Mountain West
91    Georgia State Panthers    Independent
92    Central Michigan Chippewas    MAC
93    Tulane Green Wave    The American
94    Buffalo Bulls    MAC
95    Cincinnati Bearcats    The American
95    Tulsa Golden Hurricane    The American
97    Miami Redhawks    MAC
98    Eastern Michigan Eagles    MAC
99    North Texas Mean Green    C-USA
99    Southern Miss Golden Eagles    C-USA
101    San Jose State Spartans    Mountain West
102    Akron Zips    MAC
103    UMass Minutemen    Independent
104    Western Kentucky Hilltoppers    C-USA
105    Wyoming Cowboys    Mountain West
106    Ball State Cardinals    MAC
106    Kent State Golden Flashes    MAC
108    UNLV Rebels    Mountain West
108    Utah State Aggies    Mountain West
110    Florida Atlantic Owls    C-USA
110    Old Dominion Monarchs    C-USA
112    Bowling Green Falcons    MAC
113    Louisiana Tech Bulldogs    C-USA
114    UTSA Roadrunners    C-USA
115    Charlotte 49ers    C-USA
115    UTEP Miners    C-USA
117    Florida International Panthers    C-USA
117    Middle Tennessee State Blue Raiders    C-USA

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'll hear out any questions, comments, concerns, recounts, bitching, and salt gargling in the comments

 

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3 minutes ago, grv413 said:

How the hell is Georgia State a 4 star program?

 

Turns out Notre Dame is not the #91 program, Georgia State is.

 

Sorry y'all the independents were weird to calculate and I mixed those two up lol

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1 minute ago, ChicagoTed1 said:

 

 

I dunno #77 feels more right to me. I cant quite put my finger on why though...

 

77    North Carolina Tar Heels    ACC

 

I'm not DollaBill

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10 minutes ago, AzulCaballero said:

 

77    North Carolina Tar Heels    ACC

 

I'm not DollaBill

 

Woosh

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Why is Michigan so low? You guys are clowns.

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Are Michigan State and Michigan mixed up? These rankings make 0 sense otherwise. 

 

2013: Michigan lost National Title --- MSU went 2-10

2014: Michigan 8-5 vs MSU 12-1

2015: Both went 9-4

2016: Michigan went 10-3 vs MSU  5-7

2017: Michigan 12-2 vs MSU 11-3 

2018: Michigan 12-2 vs MSU 4-8

2019: Both went 7-6

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2 minutes ago, jmjacobs said:

Are Michigan State and Michigan mixed up? These rankings make 0 sense otherwise. 

 

2013: Michigan lost National Title --- MSU went 2-10

2014: Michigan 8-5 vs MSU 12-1

2015: Both went 9-4

2016: Michigan went 10-3 vs MSU  5-7

2017: Michigan 12-2 vs MSU 11-3 

2018: Michigan 12-2 vs MSU 4-8

2019: Both went 7-6

 

 

On my response spreadsheet it's correct - but I agree with you that something is up. They're both next to each other on the poll and there's a chance the proper responses didn't go to the right cell depending on how me vs Google Sheets handles the alphabetical order of Michigan vs. Michigan State. Let me work on it and see if I can figure it out.

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Found Michigan and Michigan State had flipped scores, the data coming from the form was pointing to the wrong cell. I've checked over every other instance of state schools and any other "odd" rankings and every except the ND/GSU flip seems to be confidently in order.

 

 

 

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