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The NCAA Transfer Portal: Overview

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Additions to the Portal Process

 

 

(6/10/2019) Hardship Waivers: In VERY rare circumstances a Hardship Waiver may be granted to bypass the one-year waiting period for transferring players.  These waivers would ONLY be used for a player who is leaving a program because of broken promises or other circumstances deemed dire by the NCAA.

-Intent: To allow players joining a team with certain expectations (for example, to start) to meet those expectations, and not have their declining lack of eligibility limit their choices due to circumstances out of their control.

 

(2/24/2020) Transfer Point Adjustments: Basic formula explained here.

 

(4/23/2020) JuCo Addition to Transfer System: For NFL-Potential (4.0 and up) players that choose to transfer, JuCo schools may now get involved.  JuCo schools will start with a set number of points bid on that player for Week 2 Phase 1, and will have a random amount of points added for Week 2 Phase 2.  They will follow all other rules for bidding on (and winning) recruits.  JuCo schools do not make promises.

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Transfer and Promise Point Values/List of Promises

Transfer Points (XP):

 

All teams get 35 weekly XP have a base amount of weekly XP, currently set to 35.  This amount can be adjusted according to various factors including but not limited to:
 

  • The results of Coach promises
  • Regression towards the XP baseline.
  • Any punishments or other administrative actions
  • (Added 2/25/2020)

 

  There is no carryover of XP; you cannot save XP in Phase 2's week 1 to spend during week 2.

 

Promise Values:

 

Each Promise costs 2 XP to make.  Depending on the promise level you get a set amount of base points plus a random value in the range in parenthesis:

 

  • High prestige: >3.70 coach & team avg. prestige
    • Low-level promise: 2 + (0.250-1.250)
    • Medium-level promise: 4 + (0.750-2.000)
    • High-level promise: 6 + (1.500-4.500)

 

  • Average prestige: 2.30-3.70 coach & team avg. prestige
    • Low-level promise: 2 + (0.500-1.500)
    • Medium-level promise: 4 + (1.000-2.500)
    • High-level promise: 6 + (2.000-4.500)

 

  • Low prestige: <2.30 coach & team avg. prestige
    • Low-level promise: 2 + (0.750-1.500)
    • Medium-level promise: 4 + (1.000-3.000)
    • High-level promise: 6 + (2.500-5.000)

 

Promise List

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2024 Transfer Timeline

 

Pre-Transfer Depth Chart Deadline: Wednesday, April 29 2020, 11:59 PM EDT

Phase 1 Deadline (Convince your players to stay): Saturday, May 2 2020, 11:59 EDT

Phase 2, Week 1 Deadline (Bidding on other schools' transfer players): Wednesday, May 6 2020, 11:59 EDT

Phase 2, Week 2 Deadline (Bidding on other schools' transfer players): Sunday, May 10 2020, 11:59 EDT

 

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Questions from the Shoutbox (edited)*

 

  • If a (JR) transfers, do they have to sit a year or are they eligible immediately?  They must sit out a year unless going from FBS to FCS or they are granted a Hardship Waiver. @llamas
  • Can someone who you JUST signed out of JUCO want to transfer?  Possible but very unlikely at this time unless they are at the bottom of a logjam at the position. @alienufo
  • Can a team get a transfer that would also be buried on their DC if playing time is cited as their reason for leaving?  A team could, but it's very possible they may leave again if they don't see a path to playing time.  @gigemags11
  • Where is the portal? The Portal is not active yet, the first post is only the overview of how things will work. There will be more information and instructions to follow. @Tyrone28
  • Can redshirted players choose to transfer? It is possible for them to, yes. @anonemuss

 

 

 

*Please let me know if I edited your question incorrectly.

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This all sounds amazing. Thanks for all the work you put into it!

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Good stuff!

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Thanks for all this awesome work and the clarity of the introduction. Mods killing it!

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Will players "know" that next year they are the clear starter if, say, they are a 2.5/5 (Fr) and the only other player in the position is a 4.5/4.5 (Sr)? Situations like this it would be silly for the player to transfer, they can't play that year no matter what. Does the probability scroll based on how far down they are similar to the question about JuCo players transferring right after they join the team?

 

(PS this sounds really cool since I didn't say it above)

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Brilliant stuff. Really appreciate the questions from the shoutbox section.

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Thanks, Jieret!

 

 

I have 20 points set aside for Tyrone McGee.

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On 6/11/2019 at 8:53 AM, TheLiberator said:

Will players "know" that next year they are the clear starter if, say, they are a 2.5/5 (Fr) and the only other player in the position is a 4.5/4.5 (Sr)? Situations like this it would be silly for the player to transfer, they can't play that year no matter what. Does the probability scroll based on how far down they are similar to the question about JuCo players transferring right after they join the team?

 

(PS this sounds really cool since I didn't say it above)

Younger players will be fairly patient if they see a future path to playing time, especially if they are not yet at their full potential.

 

Transfer points and Promise values added to second post.

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Transfer Timeline added to fourth post.

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@Jieret Can I get a confirmation on my understanding of the point system?

 

In week 1, we have 35 points to spend to keep our own players. However, any point spent subtracts from our week 2 total to get players in. So if I spend 10 in phase 1, I only have 25 to spend in phase 2, week 1. However, if I spend 0 in phase 1, I lose all my players, but have 35 to spend to get players in phase 2 week 1. And then in phase 2, week 2 we have a full 35 to spend?

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13 minutes ago, grv413 said:

@Jieret Can I get a confirmation on my understanding of the point system?

 

In week 1, we have 35 points to spend to keep our own players. However, any point spent subtracts from our week 2 total to get players in. So if I spend 10 in phase 1, I only have 25 to spend in phase 2, week 1. However, if I spend 0 in phase 1, I lose all my players, but have 35 to spend to get players in phase 2 week 1. And then in phase 2, week 2 we have a full 35 to spend?

 

Any points you spend now, in Phase 1, to keep your players will be subtracted from your point total for the first week of Phase 2 (which is a 2-week process).  Your week 2 allocation of points is unaffected.  

 

Although it was not explicitly spelled out this does mean you effectively have 35 points to share between Phase 1 and the first week of Phase 2, so yes your example is correct.

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On 6/10/2019 at 6:06 PM, Jieret said:
  • High prestige: >3.70 coach & team avg. prestige
    • Low-level promise: 2 + (0.250-1.250)
    • Medium-level promise: 4 + (0.750-2.000)
    • High-level promise: 6 + (1.500-4.500)

 

  • Average prestige: 2.30-3.70 coach & team avg. prestige
    • Low-level promise: 2 + (0.500-1.500)
    • Medium-level promise: 4 + (1.000-2.500)
    • High-level promise: 6 + (2.000-4.500)

 

  • Low prestige: <2.30 coach & team avg. prestige
    • Low-level promise: 2 + (0.750-1.500)
    • Medium-level promise: 4 + (1.000-3.000)
    • High-level promise: 6 + (2.500-5.000)

 

Are these point totals added to the bid you make?  Because as it seems, lower prestige coaches get a better range of point possibilities.  And is this Phase 1, Phase 2 or both?

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47 minutes ago, acewulf said:

Are these point totals added to the bid you make?  Because as it seems, lower prestige coaches get a better range of point possibilities.  And is this Phase 1, Phase 2 or both?

Spend 2 points to make a promise to add the point total to the bid.

 

Yes, lower-prestige teams do get a higher range. 

 

These promises can be made in both phases.

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21 minutes ago, NCAA Transfer Portal said:

Spend 2 points to make a promise to add the point total to the bid.

 

Yes, lower-prestige teams do get a higher range. 

 

These promises can be made in both phases.

Ok dope, just wanting to make sure!

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5 hours ago, NCAA Transfer Portal said:

 

Any points you spend now, in Phase 1, to keep your players will be subtracted from your point total for the first week of Phase 2 (which is a 2-week process).  Your week 2 allocation of points is unaffected.  

 

Although it was not explicitly spelled out this does mean you effectively have 35 points to share between Phase 1 and the first week of Phase 2, so yes your example is correct.

@GigemAgs

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On 6/10/2019 at 5:06 PM, Jieret said:

 -Phase 2: This is a two-week process similar to JuCo.  Any players still in the portal may be bid on except for redshirt seniors, who can only go to FCS schools.  However, players may have considerations listed that affect the decision process.  The higher the consideration, the more it can influence a school's recruitment of them - both good and bad. (e.g. a 1.0 prestige school probably shouldn't try recruiting a player that values Team Prestige highly).  Just like Phase 1, coaches spend points and can make promises to further influence the player.

Where are these considerations listed?

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For this season the considerations are not in play. They would, however, be listed on the transfer spreadsheet if they were.

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If a FBS team acquires a Sr in a transfer, when rosters are progressed for the next season, does any Sr in the "transfer ineligible" list automatically get changed to a (Sr) and then progressed? I guess the simpler way to ask my question is: Do transfer ineligible players automatically get their transfer year as a redhshirt year?  

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4 minutes ago, Rocketcan said:

If a FBS team acquires a Sr in a transfer, when rosters are progressed for the next season, does any Sr in the "transfer ineligible" list automatically get changed to a (Sr) and then progressed? I guess the simpler way to ask my question is: Do transfer ineligible players automatically get their transfer year as a redhshirt year?  

Yes. And for the follow-up, no they won't count against the ten redshirts you've designated.

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4/23/2020

 

v1.2

 

  • Changed Commitment Thresholds.  Removed the "More Than" phrase from the point lead needed to commit; it is now a 10-point lead or better to have a player commit in Phase 1 instead of 10.001 or better.  It is now a 5-point lead or better to have a player commit in Phase 2 if he has multiple bids.
  • Added JuCo schools to the bidding process. 

 

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